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tsh73
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Re: LB: TRAPCLOSE does not work correctly in text
« Reply #1 on: Sep 30th, 2015, 12:15pm » |
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I really wonder how it could be a bug in LBB, if LB & LBB does not share any codebase?
You are not expecting LB bugs manifest in C# or FORTRAN, aren't you?
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Re: LB: TRAPCLOSE does not work correctly in text
« Reply #2 on: Sep 30th, 2015, 3:40pm » |
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on Sep 30th, 2015, 12:15pm, tsh73 wrote:I really wonder how it could be a bug in LBB, if LB & LBB does not share any codebase?
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LB and LBB could share a 'bug', if the origin lies in some behaviour of the Windows API. For example, I think both at one time shared a common problem if the font of a listbox or combobox was changed (the horizontal scroll range wasn't correctly adjusted). Considering that the Close button is very much a feature of Windows, you should perhaps not be so dismissive of the possibility of the bug affecting LBB.
But otherwise a shared bug would have to be a coincidence, or result from me having deliberately copied a 'bug' in the interests of compatibility (as I did with the LL, UR and LR button anchors).
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Re: LB: TRAPCLOSE does not work correctly in text
« Reply #3 on: Sep 30th, 2015, 7:39pm » |
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on Sep 30th, 2015, 12:15pm, tsh73 wrote:I really wonder how it could be a bug in LBB, if LB & LBB does not share any codebase?
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No I wasn't expecting a bug, because I'm sure if it had been a bug in BBC Basic Richard Russell would have corrected it long ago, or as he stated in his post, it had been deliberate to maintain compatibility.
The reason I posted was simply to make the point that the code worked in LBB, whereas it didn't in LB.
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Re: LB: TRAPCLOSE does not work correctly in text
« Reply #4 on: Oct 1st, 2015, 07:26am » |
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RNBW,
such kind of bugs - "plainly don't work in LB" - is really not an issue for LB programmer, at all.
You run at it once - it clearly don't work - you just do it some other way, ever after.
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Re: LB: TRAPCLOSE does not work correctly in text
« Reply #5 on: Oct 1st, 2015, 07:29am » |
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on Oct 1st, 2015, 07:26am, tsh73 wrote:RNBW,
such kind of bugs - "plainly don't work in LB" - is really not an issue for LB programmer, at all.
You run at it once - it clearly don't work - you just do it some other way, ever after. |
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On that we agree!
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Re: LB: TRAPCLOSE does not work correctly in text
« Reply #6 on: Oct 1st, 2015, 08:28am » |
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on Oct 1st, 2015, 07:26am, tsh73 wrote:| Such kind of bugs ... is really not an issue for LB programmer, at all. You run at it once - it clearly don't work - you just do it some other way, ever after. |
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So, if I understand correctly, you are saying that a bug is never important so long as there is a workaround? I cannot agree with that!
Admittedly it does seem that Carl shares your opinion, since only a small proportion of the bugs documented at the LB Bug Tracker Wiki were fixed when LB was updated from 4.04 to 4.5.0.
All I can say is that my attitude to software support is completely different. LBB is officially discontinued, but I still feel obliged to fix any significant bugs (whether there is a workaround or not).
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Re: LB: TRAPCLOSE does not work correctly in text
« Reply #7 on: Oct 1st, 2015, 09:03am » |
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Quote:| you are saying that a bug is never important so long as there is a workaround? |
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No.
I meant that - bug that makes thing clearly don't working is not a big issue because progammer will not use bugged construction in a program.
But surely - it does limit effective language programmer can use, and it is bad.
Having workaround is a nice option, but having working thing much better yet.
As for my attitude, I have thing posted in a wall: "A programmer should never, ever work on new code if they could instead be fixing bugs (Joel Spolsky)". I may be not living up to it but still 
As for Carl's attitude I really have no idea  (
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Re: LB: TRAPCLOSE does not work correctly in text
« Reply #8 on: Oct 1st, 2015, 11:07am » |
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on Oct 1st, 2015, 09:03am, tsh73 wrote:| "A programmer should never, ever work on new code if they could instead be fixing bugs (Joel Spolsky)". |
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Good maxim! I don't always live up to it either, but I try.
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