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kigohhere
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Re: LBBRUN.exe and make Executable
« Reply #2 on: Jan 6th, 2018, 02:05am » |
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Thanks a lot. Now I understand more about LB Booster and the Cross-platform BBC BASIC after reading your two very detailed explanations...yes.! Thanks.
However, your explanation of the Cross-platform BBC BASIC is too complicated for me. Ha...I am only a gamer. Programming is too difficult for me.....
Do you mean:
There are different editions for ordinary users to download to use.
http://bbcbasic.conforums.com/index.cgi?board=announcements&action=display&num=1510751284
However, ordinary users can only use the editors to write programs,and run programs inside the editors. Now It is nearly impossible or extremely diffcult for them to distribute their finished programs to other people.
Am I right.? Ok...I see. I am looking forward to your solutions to these serious problems.
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Richard Russell
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Re: LBBRUN.exe and make Executable
« Reply #3 on: Jan 6th, 2018, 10:22am » |
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on Jan 6th, 2018, 02:05am, kigohhere wrote:| It is nearly impossible or extremely diffcult for them to distribute their finished programs to other people. Am I right.? |
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No. It does not follow that because you cannot create a 'standalone executable' you cannot distribute programs to other users (that would be a pretty serious limitation!).
As this is an LBB support group I can use Liberty BASIC as an analogy. LBB supports generating standalone executables (as does BB4W) but LB 4 doesn't (like BBCSDL, currently). However you can of course still distribute your LB program in the form of a 'bundle' (perhaps as a ZIP file) rather than as a single EXE file.
Indeed the analogy is even closer. The way LB 4 works is that you rename the run-time engine to have the same name as your TKN program, but with an EXE extension. When executed it will automatically look for, and run, the TKN (it's a bit like a Windows side-by-side assembly). BBCSDL works in exactly the same way,
Suppose you have created some amazing video game, as the program MyGame.bbc. If you want to distribute it you make a copy of bbcsdl.exe as MyGame.exe and you distribute the two files as a package - possibly in conjunction with the DLLs they need to run. This isn't quite as convenient as a standalone EXE, but it's what LB users have always had to do and it's a perfectly workable solution, at least until there is something better.
Edit: I should add that BBCSDL will never be able to generate a self-contained .EXE file in quite the way that BB4W and LBB do, because of the dependence on SDL. Even if your BASIC program and the run-time engine are combined in a single EXE it will still need the set of SDL, FreeType and Zlib DLLs, just as a distributed LB 4 program needs the SmallTalk DLLs to run.
Strictly speaking one could probably statically link all these components, but it would result in a grossly bloated EXE and the whole point of DLLs is, after all, that they can be shared.
Richard.
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kigohhere
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Re: LBBRUN.exe and make Executable
« Reply #4 on: Jan 20th, 2018, 12:43am » |
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on Jan 6th, 2018, 10:22am, Richard Russell wrote:Indeed the analogy is even closer. The way LB 4 works is that you rename the run-time engine to have the same name as your TKN program, but with an EXE extension. When executed it will automatically look for, and run, the TKN (it's a bit like a Windows side-by-side assembly). BBCSDL works in exactly the same way,
Suppose you have created some amazing video game, as the program MyGame.bbc. If you want to distribute it you make a copy of bbcsdl.exe as MyGame.exe and you distribute the two files as a package - possibly in conjunction with the DLLs they need to run. This isn't quite as convenient as a standalone EXE, but it's what LB users have always had to do and it's a perfectly workable solution, at least until there is something better.
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Hello.
I understand now. 
Your explanation is very detailed and very good!!!!!
Thank you very much!! 
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