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Post by SarmedNafi on Oct 8th, 2015, 7:49pm
Hi,
I think it is a good idea if we had LBB version which works fine on XP Windows. I mean without that functions which is not exists on XP. I have a small portable PCs in good condition, but it works fast only with windows XP SP2. I am sure there were a lot of students use the same type.
Regards, Sarmed
Re: LBB version for XP
Post by Richard Russell on Oct 8th, 2015, 8:20pm
I think it is a good idea if we had LBB version which works fine on XP Windows.
From the LBB documentation:
"LBB requires Windows 2000 or later. It is not compatible with Windows 95, Windows 98 or Windows Me.".
So I'm confused by your comment. LBB was developed on Windows XP and has been more thoroughly tested on Windows XP than any other version of Windows. It runs on Windows 2000, Windows XP, Windows Vista, Windows 7, Windows 8/8.1 and Windows 10.
Richard.
Re: LBB version for XP
Post by SarmedNafi on Oct 8th, 2015, 9:38pm
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Definitely nothing to do with LBB. The GetNamedPipeServerProcessID function doesn't exist in Windows XP
The above comment makes me think of such suggestion.
Re: LBB version for XP
Post by Richard Russell on Oct 8th, 2015, 10:05pm
"Definitely nothing to do with LBB. The GetNamedPipeServerProcessID function doesn't exist in Windows XP" The above comment makes me think of such suggestion.
LBB is fully compatible with Windows XP. The GetNamedPipeServerProcessID function doesn't exist in Windows XP. Therefore LBB cannot call that function. Hence my conclusion that an error message related to calling that function cannot have anything to do with LBB.
Richard.
Re: LBB version for XP
Post by SarmedNafi on Oct 9th, 2015, 05:19am
I thought "GetNamedPipeServerProcessID function" was called by LBB it self not by user. If it was called by the user there were nothing can do by LBB. In fact the posts can not show clearly who calls the function. If it was called by LBB mechanism then we need a version for XP.
Regards
Re: LBB version for XP
Post by Richard Russell on Oct 9th, 2015, 07:00am
In fact the posts can not show clearly who calls the function.
We do not know what called the function - I speculated that it might possibly be some malware - all we know is that it was definitely not LBB. The OP responded that his XP installation had 'issues'.
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If it was called by LBB mechanism then we need a version for XP.
You are deliberately creating mischief by continuing to imply that LBB does not (or might not) run in XP, despite my repeated assurances that it does. Why?
Richard. Re: LBB version for XP
Post by SarmedNafi on Oct 9th, 2015, 11:41am
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You are deliberately creating mischief by continuing to imply that LBB does not (or might not) run in XP, despite my repeated assurances that it does. Why?
No, Richard please don't say that.
I just worry a bout my small mobile PC, actually I have no problem with LBB on XP. I am happy with it. But as I said when I read that comment from you. I said to my self soon or later Richard will develop LBB for modern OP systems from MS which it could be Win64bit (who knows?) then the machines we have which it works on xp32 became useless. So I ask you to release a version for xp.
There is no "deliberately"
There is no " creating mischief "
Whey you are so sensitive??
Thanks a lot, I will not ask you again.
Re: LBB version for XP
Post by Richard Russell on Oct 9th, 2015, 2:53pm
I said to my self soon or later Richard will develop LBB for modern OP systems from MS which it could be Win64bit (who knows?)
LBB works by translating the program to BBC BASIC. BBC BASIC is a 32-bit language (even the implementations on the 6502 and Z80 8-bit processors were 32-bit!). So there will never be a 64-bit version of LBB.
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So I ask you to release a version for xp.
I will say it again: the current version of LBB works in Windows XP. There is no need for me to release a version for XP. And anyway why do you single out XP? Windows Vista was available in both 32-bit and 64-bit variants, so was Windows 7 and Windows 8. Even Windows 10 is, I believe, still available in a 32-bit form. So XP isn't special in being a 32-bit version of Windows.
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Why you are so sensitive??
I try always to be polite to others, and I expect others to be polite to me. I have deleted your abusive posts.
Richard. Re: LBB version for XP
Post by SarmedNafi on Oct 9th, 2015, 3:15pm
Richard wrote Quote:
I will say it again: the current version of LBB works in Windows XP.
I said that too, you don't need to say it again.
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I have no problem with LBB on XP. I am happy with it.
Richard wrote Quote:
And anyway why do you single out XP? Windows Vista was available in both 32-bit and 64-bit variants, so was Windows 7 and Windows 8. Even Windows 10 is, I believe, still available in a 32-bit form.
The answer was already above Quote:
I just worry a bout my small mobile PC,
Re: LBB version for XP
Post by Richard Russell on Oct 9th, 2015, 4:54pm
The answer was already above: "I just worry about my small mobile PC"
I find it very difficult to understand you, perhaps something is 'lost in translation'
If your 'mobile PC' currently runs LBB why are you worried? LBB exists, I can't make it disappear! If you worry that a future version of LBB might not run on XP - despite me telling you that won't happen - all you've got to do is to keep a copy of a version which does. You are in control.
If I had a 'worry' it would be that one day Microsoft will remove the 32-bit functionality in Windows (WoW64) and support only 64-bit programs. If that ever happens BBC BASIC won't work, LBB won't work, LB and JB won't work (and nor will thousands of other applications).
For as long as Windows runs primarily on the x86 platform I can't see any reason why 32-bit functionality would ever be removed. It's supported by the CPU itself, and many applications simply wouldn't benefit from being converted to 64-bits (even if it is possible).
But I haven't got a crystal ball. Will Microsoft Windows still exist in 20 years time? Will the x86 CPU architecture survive that long? Who knows?
What I do know is that there are a lot more serious things to worry about. I worry about my health. I worry about the planet. I worry about the future of mankind.
